22 aug

UPPDATERING

Uppgifter från två olika håll motsäger det som William Engdahl skrev i inlägget jag länkade till tidigare idag, att syriska armén skulle ha kontroll över de områden där de påstådda attackerna med kemiska vapen ägde rum igår.
Dels från ryska utrikesministeriet – Syrian gov’t ready for cooperation with UN experts in chemical attack probe – Moscow

The UN experts and ”the Syrian authorities are discussing the practical aspects of their cooperation in a quiet and constructive atmosphere,” the Russian diplomat said.

”As far as we know, this region is under militant control and we assume that the mission should clear this maneuver with the Syrian government as the one hosting this mission,” Lukashevich said.

och dels i ett citat av Jan Eliasson som förekommer i den här artikeln – Skeptiska röster mot påstådd gasattack i Syrien

Bara femton minuter från området där attackerna ska ha ägt rum befinner sig de FN-inspektörer och experter, under ledning av svenske Åke Sellström, med uppgift att undersöka andra tidigare påstådda gasattacker. Det återstår att se om inspektörerna får tillgång till området. Jan Eliasson, vice generalsekreterare i FN, säger till SvD att utöver tillstånd från regeringssidan, krävs löfte om eldupphör från de rebellgrupper som kontrollerar området, för att genomföra en inspektion. Det hänger alltså inte uteslutande på regeringssidans vilja om inspektioner ska bli möjliga.

Det kan vara så att en del av historien består av videor som producerats på annat håll. Tex. förekommer uppgifter om att vissa av videorna laddats upp redan dagen innan händelsen. Även andra konstigheter med videorna förekommer – Fake massacre by Syrian army using Chemical weapons – men någon sorts kemisk attack måste väl ändå ha ägt rum?
Syria: Chemical Attack in Ghouta ‘an Accident Caused by Free Syrian Army’

…Gwyn Winfield, editorial director at CBRNe World, a magazine specialising in chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and explosive weapons, told IBTimes UK [that]
* We can say there is some form of chemical used. But until we take blood samples, samples of the soil and the water in the area we can’t say that a chemical agent has been used,” he said. ”It can be a riot control agent, like in the recent Egyptian case of the tear gas used in the back of a van that killed 36 prisoners. We have the same symptoms in the children and casualties.

Gwyn Winfield – Reflections on Ghouta

euronews.com – Expert casts doubt on chemical weapons footage from Syria

Stephen Johnson is an expert in weapons and chemical explosives at Cranfield Forensic Institute. He said there were inconsistency among the patients’ symptoms.
“There are, within some of the videos, examples which seem a little hyper-real, and almost as if they’ve been set up. Which is not to say that they are fake but it does cause some concern. Some of the people with foaming, the foam seems to be too white, too pure, and not consistent with the sort of internal injury you might expect to see, which you’d expect to be bloodier or yellower,” Johnson said.

Christof Lehmann – Chemical Weapons Propaganda Prompted Security Council Session

On 21 August 2013 reports that the Syrian military had used chemical weapons, killing dozens, according to some reports hundreds, up till 1.188 have prompted an emergency session of the UN Security Council on the evening of 21 August.
The reports, which began with a “Tweet” on Al-Arabiya, spread like wildfire. The Syrian “opposition” handed out “photo handouts” to international journalists. Journalists from RT and nsnbc, who were contacting local residents, could not confirm the use of chemical weapons. The Syrian government and military reject the claims.
Real or alleged, large scale chemical weapons attacks have been forecast by nsnbc international on 7 July, after an intelligence source with close ties to a Syria based Palestinian faction warned that such attacks would be part of a planned, major political and military campaign against Syria in August and September 2013.

Damaskusbor avvisar anklagelser

Två Damaskusbor som Proletären talat med avvisar bestämt anklagelserna om att den syriska regeringsarmén skulle ha utfört en attack med kemiska vapen.

Uttalande från Vita Huset – US unable to determine chemical weapons use in Syria

”At this time we are unable to conclusively determine CW (chemical weapons) use,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters.

Jumping the Gun? US says Syrian rebels incapable of chemical attack

jinge.se – Kemiska vapen i Syrien – igen!?

Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey – The criminal irresponsibility of western foreign policy

Any intelligent human being, and Hague apparently is neither, would ask what possible advantage the Assad Government would have deploying chemical weapons in an area where his forces are winning hands-down, on the eve of the UN inspection team beginning their work. Any intelligent analysis of the situation would question what advantage would be gained for the Government in gassing children and civilians.
Any intelligent appraisal would question why the so-called damning videos appeared on you-tube dated August 20, when the attacks were supposed to have taken place on August 21. Any balanced examination of the entire affair would have taken into account the UN’s own declarations in May that the ”opposition” was indeed responsible for previous chemical weapons attacks, including with Sarin nerve gas. No advantage for the Government, every advantage for the ”opposition”.

slut på uppdateringen ____________________

Enligt Engdahl tog syriska armén i maj kontrollen över de områden där attacken med kemiska vapen ägde rum igår. Det borde innebära att det underlättar för syriska myndigheter att reda ut vad det var som hände. Kanske just därför som Ryssland säger (se gårdagens inlägg nedan) sig ha indikationer på att det var en missil (eller flera) avfyrad av rebeller som användes igår. Och det kanske är därför som det här beskedet kom efter mötet i FN igår kväll – ”Säkerhetsrådet kom inte med något direkt krav på att FN:s vapeninspektörer ska få undersöka saken på plats.” – kanske Ryssland lade fram övertygande bevis som pekar mot rebellerna? Och! missa inte kommentarerna till inlägget på Sveriges Radio som citatet är hämtat från! (UPPDATERING – Det fanns 11 kommentarer mitt på dagen, framåt kvällen hade alla utom 4 tagits bort!! De 9 första finns att läsa här – http://justpaste.it/130822-ekot-syrien ) (UPPDATERING 2 – ytterligare någon timme senare har alla kommentarer tagits bort och det går inte att kommentera längre! )

William Engdahl – Syria gas attack story has whiff of Saudi war propaganda

Pending confirmation by genuinely independent judges of the latest allegations of Al Arabiya, we are well-advised to leave the reports in the category of war propaganda, in league with others such as the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964. That incident, we might recall, was faked by the Pentagon to railroad Congress into giving President Lyndon B. Johnson authority to “assist any Southeast Asian country whose government was considered to be jeopardized by communist aggression.” The resolution became Johnson’s legal justification for deploying US forces and the onset of open war against North Vietnam.

Jan Eliasson visar vilka hans herrar är genom att hjälpa till att piska upp stämningen – voiceofrussia.com – UN Security Council seeks ‘clarity’ on Syria chemical weapons claim

”No matter what the conclusion (about which side used the poisonous gas), the use of the weapon is a grave escalation,” Eliasson told reporters.

voiceofrussia.com – News of chemical weapons attack in Syria published one day before massacre happened – Islamic Invitation Turkey

The Islamic politics and cultural website Islamic Invitation Turkey claims that several videos were uploaded one day before the reports on chemical weapons use near Damascus in Syria. This evidence shows that the terrorists massacred people then recorded the scenes to deceive the world, but they gave themselves away. Terrorists in Syria uploaded the video of their crimes in East Ghouta, Damascus on August 20, 2013 and then blamed the Syrian government for the attack early on August 21, 2013, says the IIT website

voiceofrussia.com – France calls for ‘force’ if chemical arms confirmed in Syria

”There would have to be reaction with force in Syria from the international community, but there is no question of sending troops on the ground,” Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on French television network BFM.
He also said that the decision should be taken ”in other ways,” if the U.N. Security Council could not make a decision.

Det här uttalandet tror jag gjordes innan gårdagens händelse – Top general claims US ‘will not intervene’ in Syria, as rebels not ready to promote its interests

A high-ranking US military has revealed that the US has no plans for a military intervention in Syria, even on a limited scale, because it will not bring the country any gains.

english.pravda.ru – Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey – Syria: The predictable and false ”chemical” attack

  1. #1 av Calle på 22 augusti, 2013 - 20:00

    Måste säga tack för allt ditt arbete med bloggen, mycket informativ.
    Hoppas verkligen det kan bli Fred och imperalismen tynar bort.

    • #2 av Stan på 22 augusti, 2013 - 23:52

      Tack för de orden!
      Innan den här senaste händelsen såg det ut som att det gick mot en upplösning. De utländska makter som ligger bakom tycktes ha uttömt alla möjligheter, syriska armén hade allt större framgångar och samtal om fredsförhandlingar var på gång. Men det finns tydligen de som aldrig vill ge sig.
      Hoppas att resultatet av detta kan bli att Syrien kan gå till diplomatisk offensiv och presentera bevis på hur det gått till och lämna in åtal hos någon internationell domstol!

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